August 16, 2025
Why Desperation Kills Sales
Podcast Episode: Sales Without Thirst: How Zee Built a Six-Figure Business Without Chasing Clients
Let me tell you about someone who’s going to completely flip how you think about sales. Zee is a business strategist who hit $88,000 in a single month, and here’s the kicker – she genuinely doesn’t care if people say yes or no to working with her.
Not in a fake “I’m pretending not to care” way. She literally values her time more than the money, and that shift in mindset has made her more profitable than any sales tactic ever could.
If you’ve been chasing clients, following up relentlessly, or feeling desperate every time someone doesn’t immediately say yes, Zee’s story is going to be a wake-up call about what actually works in high-ticket sales.
Zee didn’t start out wanting to be an entrepreneur. She was the classic overachiever – MBA, corporate success, managing sales teams, working 60-70 hour weeks, constantly on planes, climbing the ladder toward that VP position.
But something was missing. “The biggest sacrifice in my life was actually my health,” Zee told me. “I remember thinking, I am only in my late 20s, and I just felt like I’m not healthy. I’m just working, working, working.”
The turning point came when she got married and started thinking about having a family. She couldn’t imagine continuing to kill herself for corporate while trying to raise kids.
Then came the accident that changed everything. She saw a friend post about teaching fitness classes and thought, “If this friend of mine that doesn’t have a fitness background learned how to teach a fitness class, I’m going to go teach a fitness class.”
One weekend certification later, she was teaching fitness classes. Then came the network marketing component. Then people started asking her how she was getting such great results. Before she knew it, she was accidentally building a business.
“I ended up going online and realizing you’re telling me for 40 bucks, I can sign up to have a business and actually help these people that are in my DMs?”
That first $50 check felt worth more than her corporate salary because “it was so fun and easy.”
Here’s where Zee’s story gets really interesting. She didn’t just stumble into success – she made strategic decisions that compounded over time.
After network marketing success, she launched her own wellness business and bought a brick-and-mortar fitness studio. The online business took off, but the brick-and-mortar? “The only one that I would consider like a true failure was the brick and mortar. Not for me, let me just say.”
But people kept approaching her: “Hey, how do you sell on social? How do you get your groups to be so successful? How are you pulling in so many clients?”
Instead of ignoring these requests, Zee started a Facebook group and went live every Wednesday at 9 AM to teach for free. No sales pitch. No end game. Just pure value for three months.
Then came another “accidental” moment. One night, she Googled “how to create a course,” found Thinkific, and decided to create a course outline. She put up a sales page for a course she hadn’t even recorded yet, priced it at $695, and set the start date a month out.
“I decide I’m just going to sell it, but I had never recorded anything yet. I was like, let’s just see if anybody wants this, and I’ll have a month to get it done.”
The result? Seven clarity calls a day. She had to make her husband take time off work so she could record the course she’d already sold.
Here’s where Zee’s approach gets revolutionary. While most entrepreneurs are taught to follow up aggressively, handle objections, and close hard, Zee developed the exact opposite approach.
“I genuinely do not care if they sign up or not because if they sign up, yay, I have an opportunity to help them in their business. I genuinely love the no as well, because that means I’m like, yay, I got my time.”
This isn’t a fake-it-till-you-make-it strategy. This is genuine detachment born from a fundamental shift in values.
The Two Energetics She Refuses to Bring to Sales:
The result of this approach? When she became genuinely unattached, “Everyone all of a sudden wanted to pay me whatever I wanted to work with me. And that was a side effect I didn’t plan.”
The biggest shift in Zee’s business came when she became a mom and was forced to value time over money.
“I truly, truly value time more than money. When you value time more than money, you will never sell your time for too little and resent your clients, resent your business, and stay broke.”
This philosophy shows up in everything she does:
A perfect example: Someone reached out wanting to start immediately. Her old energy would have said “right now, let’s chat.” Instead, she said “May. You’re not signing up in April. I’m not doing that this month.”
The person found her unfinished website and signed up anyway.
While most sales trainers teach elaborate follow-up sequences, Zee’s approach is beautifully simple: she doesn’t follow up.
“You will do a clarity call. My follow up, you’ll get an email recap. Here’s your recap. Here’s what I think would be a great fit for you. Here’s what we talked about. Here’s what you can do if you want to move forward. But I’m not going to send a DM like, ‘hey, what did you decide?'”
Her actual follow-up strategy? Her social media content.
“I know you’re watching. You get off a clarity call, you’re watching my stories. You’re watching my every move. That is so much easier to me than this awkward dating game.”
This approach works because she’s not trying to convince anyone they have a problem. Her top-of-funnel messaging attracts people who already know they need help, not desperate people who need convincing.
One of the most powerful aspects of Zee’s approach is her strict adherence to her zone of genius. She regularly turns away business that doesn’t fit.
“There are so many people that come to me that do not have a social media following and they want growth. And I’m like, I’m not your coach. That’s not my zone of genius.”
This might seem like leaving money on the table, but it’s actually the secret to her confidence and results.
“I can show up incredibly confident because I’m only servicing people I know I can help. And I don’t try to play both sides of it or act like I’m someone I’m not.”
The result? “I get tons of testimonials because I only work with people I’m really good at helping.”
Zee doesn’t sugarcoat the challenges of entrepreneurship as a mother. Her biggest wall-kicking moment came after having her first child.
“Having my daughter for sure. I thought it would be easier to have separation. Being an entrepreneur and a mom and baby, it felt like everything was just a mess constantly. My business income went down and I had to rebuild back up.”
She was so overwhelmed she almost went back to corporate, thinking it would be easier to have clear boundaries between work and motherhood.
The lesson? When she had her second child, she was prepared. She had systems, she hired help, and she approached it completely differently.
For moms struggling with this balance, Zee’s advice is simple: “My biggest advice is you’re not alone. The parenting days are so much harder than the work days. But the memories are never hard. I never look back and regret it.”
Before having kids, Zee was all about the hustle. “I was all about 12-hour days. I would wake up at 5 AM, do my workout, go in my office, and my husband would come home at five from work, and I was just barely leaving the office.”
Becoming a mother forced her to change this approach entirely. The result wasn’t a decrease in income – it was the biggest increase she’d ever seen.
“When I started to really detach and I was like, I don’t care if people say yes, I am completely fine with not signing people up because then I got my time back. Everyone all of a sudden wanted to pay me whatever I wanted to work with me.”
Let’s talk numbers. Zee’s highest cash month was $88,000, and her normal months are usually in the 60s. This isn’t luck or a one-time fluke – it’s the result of years of strategic positioning and mindset work.
Here’s what created those results:
Zee’s approach works because it solves the fundamental problem most entrepreneurs have: desperation energy.
When you’re desperate for a yes, prospects can feel it. It’s like that Looney Tunes character Elmira who grabs the cat and says “I love you, I love you, I’m going to squeeze you.” The cat is trying to get away because the energy is suffocating.
“You’re stifling people,” Zee explains. “There is a level of ‘I’m clawing onto your ankle’ that is so repelling for people.”
When you genuinely don’t need the sale, people feel safe to make decisions without pressure. They trust that you’re recommending what’s actually best for them, not what’s best for your bank account.
The most powerful part of Zee’s philosophy is how she separates client decisions from business goals:
“Someone’s response and desire to work with me has nothing to do with me hitting my goal. I’m going to hit my goal because I’m going to hit my goal. If I have a goal and I’m going to hit my goal, I’m going to hit my goal. It has nothing to do with you saying yes or no.”
This removes the emotional charge from individual sales conversations and puts the power back in the entrepreneur’s hands.
“Everyone could tell me no today, but I’m still gonna hit my goal.”
Zee’s story destroys every myth about what it takes to succeed in sales:
What you do need is:
Zee went from corporate burnout to building a business that generates $60,000+ months consistently, all while working on her own terms, showing up in a towel to calls (camera off), and genuinely not caring if people say yes or no.
The secret isn’t a sales script or a follow-up sequence. It’s the inner work of becoming someone who truly believes that what’s meant for them will come to them, and what’s not meant for them creates space for something better.
Stop chasing. Stop convincing. Stop being thirsty.
Start believing in your value, honoring your time, and trusting that the right people will find you.
As Zee says, “What’s meant for me will come to me. I believe that without a doubt.”
And when you truly believe that? Everything changes.
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